Touring tire advice 2023

[NTInatore]

Difference sport vs. touring sport tires:
Depending on the manufacturer, the difference is fluid: Basically, touring sports tires have their feel-good behavior in the lower temperature range, i.e. between 10 and 30 degrees outside temperature.
Sports tires have their feel-good behavior between 15.18-40 degrees outside temperature. At outside temperatures above that, the hyper sports tires come into play.
Touring sports tires have more initial profile than sports tires and more contact surface.

The decisive factor in the development of the tires is the use of silica in order to get the micro-serration better when it is wet, the disadvantage at high temperatures is that the tires with a lot of silica content become greasy.

Regarding touring sports tires as my recommendation:
BRIDGESTONE BT023 / BT 21:
1. Smallest price increases
2. Hard carcass
3. The tire gets its temperature from its mixture
4. The tire can do everything, and has some of the best grip in dry/wet conditions, but slightly higher wear.
the successors T31 and T32 unfortunately have the highest wear, but they are excellent tires when braking in the wet.

DUNLOP ROADSMART 4:
1. less wear
2. slightly more expensive
3. Good wet/dry adhesion
4. GT version for 2 man operation and loading (heavy motorcycles)
GPR versions poor wet braking performance.

  METZELER Z8 M , METZELER ROADTEC 01 SE:
1. Wet/dry perfomance good
2. Mileage Average
3. Price / performance Z8 ok, the Roadtec 01 SE price is a bit higher.

MICHELIN PILOT ROAD 4, MICHELIN ROAD 5: MICHELIN ROAD 6:
Road 4, best recommendation before Road 5 and 6 for touring sports tyres
Price/performance top.
Mileage top
Wet performance top.

PIRELLI ANGEL GT
comparable to Metzeler Z8 M

Conclusion touring sport recommendation:

BRIDGESTONE BT023 / BT 21
DUNLOP ROADSMART 4
METZELER Z8 M , METZELER ROADTEC 01 SE
MICHELIN PILOT ROAD 4
PIRELLI ANGEL GT

Statements and tests about the tires mentioned come from motorcyclists for motorcyclists in the touring sector.

[Art]

  a tyre thread

Not sure I understand what you're reporting here, in my experience:

Bridgestone BT-023's offer the highest mileage at the lowest cost vs Michelin Road Pilot's offering the lowest mileage at the highest cost.

Of course the real life comparison is the Pilots can cost nearly twice as much and last half as long as the BT-023's which means that the real cost can actually be three to four times more!

Both tyres, as with most modern motorcycle tyres, offer good performance, all year round, in all weather and road conditions. For my two penneth you can't better the Bridgestones on performance, cost or mileage. For example, I've just had a pair of Bridgestones BT-023's supplied and fitted for £230 which included delivery, fitting and VAT. The Bridgestones they replaced had covered over 10,000 miles, as expected they were a little squared off and tracked a little but remained very serviceable as a touring tyre.

[Stoke-NT]

Hi NTInatore.
Thanks for your touring motorcyclists tyre recommendation.
These are touring bikers opinions. But how many were on a Honda NT1100? It's one thing saying buy Bridgestone BT023, but do they suit the NT? It's the same with these internet tyre comparisons from people like Bennetts or MCN. Not done on our NT.

We know the standard Dunlop and Metzeler tyres are ok. But how many other tyres have actually been used on an NT?
Well, based on the posts here, thfch is happy with his Michelin Road 6 GTs and I'm happy with my Bridgestone T32s.

And that's it.

We need more posts here with reports on how different tyres suit our bike.

Or have I got it wrong? Will the Bridgestone BT023s be great on the NT1100 because some touring riders like it on some other bikes?

[NTInatore]

Hello Stokes,
Of course I have to agree with you that we need more opinions that directly affect our model.

My summary for the tires is generally about touring motorcycles, our NT is nothing special and can be compared with other touring bikes, the NT tires are standard sizes in the segment, so I think the thread fits quite well as an orientation good.

Of course there are still questions to be answered in which regions you are traveling and for which purposes the tires should be better suited, do I drive more in the rain and sometimes in cool temperatures? Or am I only out and about in the summer?
Do I travel the world and drive in all situations?

My recommendations for the tires have established themselves as the best, including their properties and performance.

most of them still drive the OEMs because the motorcycle is still new, I'm also curious to see how everyone will report on their newly purchased tires. Recommendations are only for orientation and put the facts of the tires mentioned in the foreground.

All the tires I mentioned have NT approval, and many are already using the tires on other comparable motorcycles. ART rightly favors the BT 023, but it's not about the brand, it's about what the tire can do and how it does it Performt, I hope my translation tool gets that right?.

From my research, bikers report why one or the other tire performs better. It's about its composition in the rubber compound, the driving behavior, the mileage and the handling wet/dry, hence the basis for my presentation.

I look forward to your reports and experiences.
My Dunlop does its job quite well in the dry, but when it's wet it doesn't inspire much confidence. I've already had one or two slides, it also depends on the road.

In earlier years on my NC 750 the Michelin Road 4 was on it, with which I slipped out of a parking bay in southern Italy at almost 38 degrees, what was the reason?
Quite simply the Road 4 is a full Sisslica tire and does not perform as well at higher temperatures.

The composition and the mixture of the tire is decisive
for use, not the brand itself, I described that in the upper part of my thread.

[Gavia]

Good morning everyone, changed OEM tires (dunlop) after 10,000km.
I mounted the Pirelli Angel GT II

The subjective sensation is of a very sincere and flawless grip and with a good progressiveness in the descent in curves and exit in traction.
In the wet I think they are the best tyres I've tried.
Objectively the positivity that if before with the OEM dunlop often came into operation the traction control with the Pirelli this rarely happens (on equal setting of the TSC).

I would like to point out that with the Pirellis I have traveled 3,000 km alone, in two, wet, dry roads, state roads, mountain roads

The new Pirelli ANGEL™ GT II has won the comparative test dedicated to Sport Touring tyres carried out by Motociclismo, the most historic and serious Italian trade magazine. The test took place in several stages. The tires, in sizes 120/70 ZR17 front and 180/55 ZR17 rear, were mounted on five BMW R 1250 RT, the BMWs were entrusted to five travelers who took them from Milan to Sicily and back. The route has been designed to reproduce the usual use that is made of a tourist motorcycle, ie highways and winding roads combined with provincial routes. At the end of the tour the riders filled in the evaluation forms

[Stoke-NT]

Hi Gavia.
Very interesting that tyre comparison test conducted in Italy by the Italian trade found an Italian tyre to be the best.
Seriously though, I'm sure the Pirelli Angel is an excellent tyre. Just as good as a Bridgestone or Metzeler or Michelin. In fact it seems ALL these tyres are excellent, depending on whose comparison test you read.

Just been on the net.
Best touring tyre:
Motorcycle News: Metzeler Roadtec
Bennetts: Bridgestone T31 (I've lost track if the number of Bridgestone sports touring tyres).
Demon Tweaks (whoever they are) Michelin Road 6.
Tyre Reviews (another I've not heard of): Avon Sprint (Avon's latest sport touring tyre with exceptional wet grip performance and mileage. Manufactured in the UK. Sounds amazing.)

It seems that whatever tyre you buy there's someone who says it's the best! Is that because the manufacturers are all making such similar products?

[Gavia]

Hi Stoke NT,
I agree with you that the tyres you list are excellent and equivalent to each other.
However, I would point out that comparative tests must rank. If you then read between the lines the difference in performance: durability, kept dry- wet, they are rarely perceived by a normal user (like me).

I think, if you agree, that the price level is an indicative parameter on the construction quality and the yield in km.

Objectively, I can say that the difference in the best I found passing from OEM tires to current.

Good bike rides to all.

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